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ashsmom
ashsmom
Jury House
Apr 23 2008, 11:10 PM EDT
TOOO FUNNY!!!! It's not Matt's job to like natalie or be her friend. After her chasing him around the last house, I guess he wants to make sure he's left alone in this one. I don't blame him one bit. She should try to get to know some of the evil doers, and maybe she'll find out they're okay people too, What an absolute simpleton, crying about Matty, I guess she didn't get stronger after all. ALL TALK -- again. She and Sheila talk a lot about becoming stronger women, I never saw that happen. 8  out of 11 found this valuable. Do you?    
thebabcock5
thebabcock5
RE: Jury House
Apr 24 2008, 1:10 PM EDT
"TOOO FUNNY!!!! It's not Matt's job to like natalie or be her friend. After her chasing him around the last house, I guess he wants to make sure he's left alone in this one. I don't blame him one bit. She should try to get to know some of the evil doers, and maybe she'll find out they're okay people too, What an absolute simpleton, crying about Matty, I guess she didn't get stronger after all. ALL TALK -- again. She and Sheila talk a lot about becoming stronger women, I never saw that happen."
What are you talking about? Matt is not talking to Natalie at the Jury house? Is that what you are saying????
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Vernawelch
Vernawelch
RE: Jury House
Apr 24 2008, 2:42 PM EDT
Yep. She is complaining Matt is being mean to hear again. He is staying away from her. He doesn't need her anymore and he wants her to stay away from him. She needs to see that he was just using her.That he really didn't like her except to get him through the game. I think she still wants something with him even though she has said she doesn't . There are too many people in that jury house for her to be complaining about him not liking her. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
slovell

slovell
RE: Jury House
Apr 24 2008, 4:10 PM EDT
I feel bad for Nat. I think that we have all had our Matty in life it may have been when we was in school or college but they are there if you will think back and none of ours was on national TV. And most of us was not vocal about it. Also we was not shut up in a house with nothing to take our minds off of it. Just remeber she is seeing him 27/7 and we only see what they want us to see.is matt also leading her on to some degree? 3  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
xmmwx

xmmwx
RE: Jury House
Apr 24 2008, 4:33 PM EDT
Also..the rest of us didn't get under the sheets with him and then start talking about Team CHRIST and pretend we were religious and put down other people for being evil either.. 6  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
slovell

slovell
RE: Jury House
Apr 25 2008, 2:54 PM EDT
no we did not but we have crawled under the sheets when we wasnt suppose to ( not being married ) and claimed to be a christian, or show up at chruch with our boyfriend what is the diffrernce and I am sure that we have all talked about someone bad in our life before. so does that make us just like her? As for the team christ it was just a name like team pink it stood for the ones that read the bible in the house like the sexy 6 stood for the ones that thought the was the best looking that was just a matter of opinion. so maybe we should not judge people till we make sure that we are not or have not done the samething.I have in my life done those things and I am a preachers daughter. 2  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    
Vernawelch
Vernawelch
RE: Jury House
Apr 25 2008, 3:01 PM EDT
Nat meaning for Team Christ was not only for reading the bible, because Sharon read it, but that Nat though her gang were more believers and doing the right thing then the others. Even though her TC were doing as much if not more lieing then anyone especially Nat. 5  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
ashsmom
ashsmom
RE: Jury House
Apr 25 2008, 5:27 PM EDT
I took offense, and if ANY Christian talked to me like that or called me an evil doer, I would be totally insulted. She has no right with her own background and even her behavior in the house to throw around words like evil doer. I do think she thought she was better than others cuz she knew Christ. Again, knowing who Christ is and ACTUALLY practicing what Jesus preached and how he acted are totally different. Let's put it this way, if I was somewhere I thought my minister or Jesus would not approve of, I would be yelling to the top of my voice Team Christ. Natalie's behavior totally turned me off. Natalie, "let he who is without sin, cast the first stone." 4  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
Vernawelch
Vernawelch
RE: Jury House
Apr 25 2008, 5:39 PM EDT
She thought she was GOD of the house just like she thought she had the money in her checking account. ANd the way she would laugh when she said prayers made me so upset. To me that was totally disrespectful of Christ and being a Christian in general. I'm really wondering if she really is a Christian or was she just using it as a way to go through the game. We will not know unless she tells us. And to give BJ's on national tv. I don't think a true Christian would do that. 3  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
ashsmom
ashsmom
RE: Jury House
Apr 25 2008, 6:18 PM EDT
I agree Verna, it seemed to be incredibly disrespectful, CULTISH, and self-serving. I'm assuming she fell on hard times and picked up the Bible, but she seems to only have concentrated on the verses that supported her ideas. We all know Cult leaders use this technique to lead, and those poor FLDS women and children in Texas are an example of this. They only hear part of the TRUE story. AND they distort other verses to support their SICK ideas. 2  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
xmmwx

xmmwx
RE: Jury House
Apr 25 2008, 6:29 PM EDT
Once again I will say..I never did ANYTHING on National T.V...she put herself in the front of the entire nation..when she signed up..she knew she'd be judged..I was watching something on youtube the first week where she was talking about having an abortion..I know there are women that feel that that is their only option and I believe that a woman's body belongs to her...But, that is a DIRECT contradiction to being on "Team Christ"..How different she was when Matt left the house..all the sudden she was the director of morality..when just the week before she was doing something else..

Anyway, like I said..she went on national t.v to be just that.."judged" every week she was judged when she was put up on the block or not..and when she was finally evicted..those doing the evicting were judging her..
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ashsmom
ashsmom
RE: Jury House
Apr 25 2008, 7:08 PM EDT
I concur xmmwx... She didn't hesitate to judge the others, esp. Chelsia and James, when she had oral sex on TV. People say it's not the same, I disagree, sex is sex. 4  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
xmmwx

xmmwx
RE: Jury House
Apr 25 2008, 9:33 PM EDT
This is nothing against Bill Clinton..but, didn't he say that he didn't have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky because it wasn't really sex and tried to use the bible to say that it wasn't directly said that oral sex was wrong in the bible???? Sounds like she is reading his version of the bible!!! Hahahah..(Once again..Not trying to offend the Bill Clinton supporters!! I just think it's funny) 2  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
catnip222
catnip222
RE: Jury House
Apr 25 2008, 10:41 PM EDT
the kids these days dont think bj's is having sex & i do blame it on clinton.as for gnat ,why did she think sharon was an evildoer? sharon beliefs are purer and deeper than gnats. nat has a warped way of looking & repeating her version of the bible.what kind of church does she belong to? the way she speaks it's cultish. i dont know what she's been taught & how long has she been religious?something is wrong 3  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
catnip222
catnip222
RE: Jury House
Apr 25 2008, 10:47 PM EDT
also--why hasnt she gotten to know anyone better?look at james & matt.josh & matt.is she that much above the others?or are there not enough men in there?well, i can understand not being around chelsea.she's too mean for me 2  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
ashsmom
ashsmom
RE: Jury House
Apr 26 2008, 7:01 AM EDT
Catnip, I think they know it's sex, it's just another fakeness we use to justify our bad actions. The sad part about oral sex, is the guys get serviced, the girls get nothing, except a bad reputation. i think American needs to get back to some old fashioned values. I talked to my daughter all the time about this,. Tyra just did a show a couple of weeks ago about teens having sex in school. Shameful. Parents are NOT doing their jobs. Girls suffer so with low self-esteem. Moms have to work harder to combat this. My mom did, and I still had my low self-esteem moments. I've worked harder with my girl, she still may suffer, but hopefully NEVER on tape or in photos. I've told her NEVER to have some one tape her or let some guy take compromising pics of her. I hope she's listening. The Kim Kardiashian thing was a big conversation at our house. I agree that Natalie is waaaaay to old, not to know better. The GOOD thing about reality TV, it is a teaching tool - if your kid's old enough to watch that is. Waaaay racy theses days.
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ashsmom
ashsmom
RE: Jury House
Apr 26 2008, 7:03 AM EDT
Natalie probably doesn't have a lot of relationships with women. The way she talks and responds to them. The way she put down the other women. Sheila would say complimentary things about the other women. I also think Natalie started the fight with Chelsia. When she was crying about Matt treating her badly and putting down her dreams. There was that big fight in the kitchen, cuz they were talking about getting rid of Matt, and Natalie said she was acting. And she said something like, I was just saying that to get information. Like I wouldn't go and tell my partner. HER PARTNER?????? She's soooo delusional. REALLY. I just saw the fight on UTube yesterday.

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catnip222
catnip222
RE: Jury House
Apr 26 2008, 12:14 PM EDT
"Natalie probably doesn't have a lot of relationships with women. The way she talks and responds to them. The way she put down the other women. Sheila would say complimentary things about the other women. I also think Natalie started the fight with Chelsia. When she was crying about Matt treating her badly and putting down her dreams. There was that big fight in the kitchen, cuz they were talking about getting rid of Matt, and Natalie said she was acting. And she said something like, I was just saying that to get information. Like I wouldn't go and tell my partner. HER PARTNER?????? She's soooo delusional. REALLY. I just saw the fight on UTube yesterday.

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ashsmom,i wish all mothers were like you.you're daughter must be grateful for you .& certainly will be in the future.you are so right about parents doing there job.i think it's difficult to have your children grow up right w/o the bad influences and pressure of trends.all the moms on here have all my respect!!! inever had children,i was afraid i would screw them up somehow.my neice is the closest to a child,& i was too easy w/ her.she's 29 now & a down to earth young lady.actually i have to admit that my nickname is easy.if she called me by my real name i wouldn't answer.
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ashsmom
ashsmom
RE: Jury House
Apr 26 2008, 1:32 PM EDT
She's my girl all right. We are sooo close, and if she forgets to come pick up her old mom and take her to the mall and to meet her friends 20 years from now. She'll definitely hear about it. Those are all the things I've done for her. Driving her to countless activities, sports, to meet with her friends, All the hours sitting and the mall waiting on she and her friends. BUT I wouldn't trade all those hours for dollars. In high school it was rough, and those bad influences were gaining on her. This last year, she did the U-Turn Pastors Chip Ingram and Tony Evans talk about. It's hard isn't it. I've had a few moments where I thought I've run it off into the ditch, and I thought where did I go wrong, but I think she's turned out pretty darned well. AND IT'S EASY TO SCREW IT UP, sometimes without even knowing it. God bless mothers all over the world -- the good ones and the bad ones. OH YEAH, thanks for the compliment. Your niece is very fortunate to HAVE you. Hang in there and just never give up on her. The name thing is funny. 1  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
xmmwx

xmmwx
RE: Jury House
Apr 26 2008, 3:18 PM EDT
You're right..kids are mixed up about what is and what isn't appropriate. I'm scared to death that my daughters/son will get involved in all these things..but, all you can do is teach them properly and hope they get it...(and watch them like a hawk..)

I'm just curious..I just saw a promo on Showtime for BBAD and it showed people like Natalie all soaped up and topless..then saw the girls strip teasing for the boys..etc..and really getting into it..Is this what I missed on BBAD or the 24/7 feed?? There was ALOT of Natalie in the beginning days..then all the sudden it was Team Christ??? I don't get it!!
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